Yesss!!! I watched Sinners by myself Saturday night and as a black overweight girl, I highly resonated with Annie! Annie personified the longing within me to finally see BBW be desired! Smoke and Annie possessed a healthy connection of what black love should look like in media! I also just watched “Eve’s Bayou” so the infusing of southern hoodoo touched my heart deeply!
i saw sinners yesterday, and i got the same vibe about the couples. smoke and annie had that true, healthy love dynamic that touched me. stack and mary were just rabbits going at it, and stack dismissing mary's grief for her mother rubbed me the wrong way.
i honestly thought smoke's name was elijah and the baby was unnamed. i feel elijah as smoke's name is significant because he was the more steady, grounded responsible twin who wanted the best for sammy. stack wanted to profit from sammy's talents, but smoke was concerned for sammy's soul, which is why he said he doesn't know any happy musicians. the post-credit scene with sammy, stack, and mary indicates that smoke's concerns had enough impact on sammy to not fall into the temptation of immortality, despite pursuing a career in music. also, smoke co-led the survivors with annie like biblical judges led the israelites. then, smoke sort of led himself to spiritual completion by killing the klansmen and taking off the mojo bag to unite with annie and their child.
I love the last note about looking at the larger picture. I definitely found it a fascinating thought to observe - as a people we often allow others into our spaces because they're familiar, commonly disregarding that the space intended was not intended for them. Though they're familiar to us often times allowing them in to communal spaces, can cause grave harm for the community at-large.
You ate this DOWN! I have yet to see the movie but I was wondering why this white women was in the movie then I learned she actually black. Just looks white. The way you broke down her purpose was so good. And the way you explained black men desiring to elevate themselves by being close to whiteness made the book I’m reading by Mary Monroe, God Don’t Like Ugly make so much sense. I also just finished waiting to exhale and Bernie’s husband leaving her for a white women now that he’s reached what he thinks is the top of his career makes so much sense now that you broke that down. You be writing your ass off 🫶🏽
Hiiii Kamory! I subscribed to you recently after reading a couple of your posts - I really admire the consistency of your tone and the conviction you have throughout your writing. I was so excited when I realised you'd written a piece on Sinners and I just read it today! While I didn't think too much about the difference between the pairings, I did think about what Annie and Mary symbolise individually.
I 100% agree with you that Mary is a precautionary tale lol. It didn't occur to me that her actions were motivated by her identity crisis and need to be accepted by her community. I just assumed she operated with more naivety as she didn't have the same lived experiences as her visibly Black counterparts. ALSO! Her proximity to whiteness makes her more inclined to give White people the benefit of doubt. It's like she's in denial because accepting that all White people can't be trusted is like saying a part of her can't be trusted as well. It creates a conflict of interest and unfortunately, her need to resolve her inner conflict trumped whatever consideration she had for her community's safety. It made me ponder about how much of invasion of Black spaces, cultural appropriation etc started with innocent invitations like this.
In fact, just a few days ago I read an essay that touched on how the preservation of Black culture among White passing folks often blurs the line between what is allowed etc. If you're interested, you can read it here: https://substack.com/home/post/p-150474380. Also, I think the lesson of 'be careful who you invite into your space' is applicable to all POC tbh. I know that was definitely what led to the British colonisation of my country lol.
I also love Annie!!! I love how the movie portrayed her femininity as a strength. Throughout the film, I just knew her character embodied all the nurturing and strong qualities of a Black woman (based on what I've consumed online, however please correct me if it sounds like I'm stereotyping). I couldn't quite articulate my feelings about her character but having read your piece, I feel like you captured her essence perfectly. I also love the breastfeeding scene when she, Smoke and their child reunited in his final moments - how beautiful and natural it was.
The breastfeeding scene along with all the love scenes and references to c*nniling*s felt like such a triumph for women on film, too - natural experiences that aren't controversial at all.
Anyway, your piece was such a treat to read! <3 If I didn't see it before, I can definitely see it now: the portrayal of divine love and lustful love, and how true love is one that aligns with your inner realm. Also, I don't know much about Hoodoo, so thank you for providing the context!
The media is glorifying Mary and Stacks relationship only because she’s white. While all Black people know that Annie was the leading lady. Annie and Smokes relationship was so beautiful. You gave me another way to look at their relationship. Also, thank you for the life path number insight. I knew nothing of that and mine so was spot on! Beautiful review!💕
i literally watched it earlier today and i was picking up on her bullshit so fast 😩 it was so sad to see stack allow himself to be swayed by her idea though.. i’m ngl i have to watch it over too cuz i had no idea what was going on for the first twenty minutes 😭
Yesss!!! I watched Sinners by myself Saturday night and as a black overweight girl, I highly resonated with Annie! Annie personified the longing within me to finally see BBW be desired! Smoke and Annie possessed a healthy connection of what black love should look like in media! I also just watched “Eve’s Bayou” so the infusing of southern hoodoo touched my heart deeply!
I loved that Annie was representation for y’all 🤎
i saw sinners yesterday, and i got the same vibe about the couples. smoke and annie had that true, healthy love dynamic that touched me. stack and mary were just rabbits going at it, and stack dismissing mary's grief for her mother rubbed me the wrong way.
i honestly thought smoke's name was elijah and the baby was unnamed. i feel elijah as smoke's name is significant because he was the more steady, grounded responsible twin who wanted the best for sammy. stack wanted to profit from sammy's talents, but smoke was concerned for sammy's soul, which is why he said he doesn't know any happy musicians. the post-credit scene with sammy, stack, and mary indicates that smoke's concerns had enough impact on sammy to not fall into the temptation of immortality, despite pursuing a career in music. also, smoke co-led the survivors with annie like biblical judges led the israelites. then, smoke sort of led himself to spiritual completion by killing the klansmen and taking off the mojo bag to unite with annie and their child.
I love the last note about looking at the larger picture. I definitely found it a fascinating thought to observe - as a people we often allow others into our spaces because they're familiar, commonly disregarding that the space intended was not intended for them. Though they're familiar to us often times allowing them in to communal spaces, can cause grave harm for the community at-large.
You ate this DOWN! I have yet to see the movie but I was wondering why this white women was in the movie then I learned she actually black. Just looks white. The way you broke down her purpose was so good. And the way you explained black men desiring to elevate themselves by being close to whiteness made the book I’m reading by Mary Monroe, God Don’t Like Ugly make so much sense. I also just finished waiting to exhale and Bernie’s husband leaving her for a white women now that he’s reached what he thinks is the top of his career makes so much sense now that you broke that down. You be writing your ass off 🫶🏽
Thank you so much 🥹🤎
You’re welcome 🫶🏽
Hiiii Kamory! I subscribed to you recently after reading a couple of your posts - I really admire the consistency of your tone and the conviction you have throughout your writing. I was so excited when I realised you'd written a piece on Sinners and I just read it today! While I didn't think too much about the difference between the pairings, I did think about what Annie and Mary symbolise individually.
I 100% agree with you that Mary is a precautionary tale lol. It didn't occur to me that her actions were motivated by her identity crisis and need to be accepted by her community. I just assumed she operated with more naivety as she didn't have the same lived experiences as her visibly Black counterparts. ALSO! Her proximity to whiteness makes her more inclined to give White people the benefit of doubt. It's like she's in denial because accepting that all White people can't be trusted is like saying a part of her can't be trusted as well. It creates a conflict of interest and unfortunately, her need to resolve her inner conflict trumped whatever consideration she had for her community's safety. It made me ponder about how much of invasion of Black spaces, cultural appropriation etc started with innocent invitations like this.
In fact, just a few days ago I read an essay that touched on how the preservation of Black culture among White passing folks often blurs the line between what is allowed etc. If you're interested, you can read it here: https://substack.com/home/post/p-150474380. Also, I think the lesson of 'be careful who you invite into your space' is applicable to all POC tbh. I know that was definitely what led to the British colonisation of my country lol.
I also love Annie!!! I love how the movie portrayed her femininity as a strength. Throughout the film, I just knew her character embodied all the nurturing and strong qualities of a Black woman (based on what I've consumed online, however please correct me if it sounds like I'm stereotyping). I couldn't quite articulate my feelings about her character but having read your piece, I feel like you captured her essence perfectly. I also love the breastfeeding scene when she, Smoke and their child reunited in his final moments - how beautiful and natural it was.
The breastfeeding scene along with all the love scenes and references to c*nniling*s felt like such a triumph for women on film, too - natural experiences that aren't controversial at all.
Anyway, your piece was such a treat to read! <3 If I didn't see it before, I can definitely see it now: the portrayal of divine love and lustful love, and how true love is one that aligns with your inner realm. Also, I don't know much about Hoodoo, so thank you for providing the context!
The media is glorifying Mary and Stacks relationship only because she’s white. While all Black people know that Annie was the leading lady. Annie and Smokes relationship was so beautiful. You gave me another way to look at their relationship. Also, thank you for the life path number insight. I knew nothing of that and mine so was spot on! Beautiful review!💕
i literally watched it earlier today and i was picking up on her bullshit so fast 😩 it was so sad to see stack allow himself to be swayed by her idea though.. i’m ngl i have to watch it over too cuz i had no idea what was going on for the first twenty minutes 😭